BinToo-2007.1 Installation Tips

These are some tips for installing BinToo 2007.1 :

first you should know that the installer will not check for free space and you must check it your self.

your hardware should be stable and connected the right way for ex. no power/data failures on the CD/DVD/HDD drives.

it's recommended to restore the BIOS settings to its defaults before starting the setup.

you should know that the Full installation profile takes about 8 hrs and requires 12GB partition,

the Basic Desktop profile takes about 5 hrs and requires 6GB partition,

the Minimal shell,server profile takes about 1 hour and requires 3GB partition.

the previous times will vary depending on your hardware specially the processor speed and the CD/DVD/HDD speed , the previous times were on my PIII/1.2/256k+256RAM+80G IDE .

if the boot process crashed try these solutions:

on boot prompt of installation write slax followed by one or more of the following parameters:

acpi=off

ide=nodma

nousb nohotplug nopcmcia

 

you should download the DVD

you should download the DVD ISO image and put it on the root of any drive to be able to install it succesfully.

If you have DVD-RW/ROM you may burn the DVD ISO image and use it directly to install.

CD install asked for DVD image???

When I tried a CD install it asked for the DVD image to be located somewhere?  I'm a bit confused.  Shouldn't it pull down from the network what it needs?  Does it matter that I have a PCMCIA network card?

Failed grub mbr install

Thank you for wasting my entire weekend.

I left my computer downloading the 4,2GB ISO file overnight, then successfully burnt it to a DVD. This booted ok and I followed the installation instructions.

I have several partitions on my SATA HDD, on which there are three logical partitions that I use for running different Linux distros. I installed Bintoo into one of these. I expected grub or lilo to be written to the PBR as well as the MBR, but it only appears to have been written to the MBR. When I rebooted, the Grub loader seemed to be corrupt, i.e. it displayed some text about loading grub, etc.. then just hung.

I have not been able to boot my new installation at all. I now feel very annoyed as my entire time has been completely wasted.

Can you advise what I could try, or shall I just throw away my DVD and delete the partition and warn others from even starting to download Bintoo, so that they don't waste hours of their time?

Well I see you did

Well I see you did apologize, but everybody have some issues with linux in general, and Windows also, even more so.

I'm having a problem with my USB HDD and DVD drives but I'm not going to rant & rave about it. Maybe to myself. Laughing

I still haven't tried installing Bintoo and turning off the HD to see if it will continue the installation.

Since I work night shifts, I'm waiting till my off days to give it another go.

 

i'm really sorry for your

i'm really sorry for your wasted time, and be sure that every problem have a solution.

i faced this problem on 2 2nd hand dirty assembled modern PCs they can't be stable until the end of installation and there were many data lose and power failure in the installation process because of HDD/DVD power failure or data failure.

to get ride of this hell you may try to reinstall grub by hand like this:

  1. boot with the system but don't start the setup .
  2. # cd /mnt/bintoo && mount --bind /proc proc/ && mount --bind /dev dev/
  3. # chroot ./
  4. # mount -a
  5. # grub-install /dev/sda
  6. or
  7. # grub
  8. grub> root (hd0,X)
  9. grub> setup (hd0)

this is all

or you can install the Minimal Profile about 20 Minute then reinstall your favorite profile if you can't install grub manually .

Q: are you sure that the file is not corrupted ? did you downloaded it with bittorrent or http/ftp ?

once again i'm really so sorry about your weekend :(.

re: Failed GRUB MBR Install

Hello Mohamed,

Many thanks for your quick reply.

I will try out your suggestions when I get a chance in the next few days I hope, and then I will let you know how it goes/went.

I apologize for my somewhat sour remarks in my first post. It didn't go as I had expected, and found it infuriating after such a long process of downloading and installing!

I am not really sure if the grub file really was corrupt or not, I used the term 'corrupt' loosely, to mean basically 'it hung'.

Many thanks,

-Russ.

Install test

Hi Admin, no nickname ? Smile

So, thanks first for the iso files. I downloaded and tried an install of the dvd version. Everything were fine except 2 dark points :

1 : you are prompt to select services to activate at install's end but it's a little bit confused for newbies. I only activated cups and hplip as I don't know the other stuff !

2 : after the reboot, bintoo showed me an error with xorg, I tried to reconfigure it with xorgconfig and xorgcfg without success. So I couldn't start X.

I would be glad to have some explanations about those services to activate and a little help to configure Xorg.

My hardware : Motherboard Asus A8N-E, Nvidia Geforce 6600 256mo, AMD64 3000+ and 1Ghz Ram

Thanks in advance

Hi ed57

Hi ed57 my name is mohamed .

The most important service needed to the system are being set automatically by the installer, so you may not need to add any additional services except cupsd if you wish to print any thing :) .

for the Xorg problem try this command as root :

# X -configure && X -config /root/xorg.conf.new

if it works fine then

# rm /etc/X11/XF86* && mv /root/xorg.con.new /etc/X11 && eselect oengl xorg-x11

if this not work then you should install nvidia-drivers by this simple command

# emerge nvidia-drivers

you should be connected to internet during this process.

i hope this will solve the problem .

install succeeded

hi mohamed,

Thanks first for your explanations about Xorg. Smile

I had to emerge nvidia-drivers to start X. I did first a new install (desktop only) by activating cupsd and numlock as services.

I just had to reconfigure XF86Config (no xorg.conf ?!) to get the right resolutions by me : 1280x1024 and delete a few lines. I ran then alsaconf and alsamixer to have some sound (i have a soundblaster audigy) but aRTs server is not launched/activated by default : no sound in kde environnement (can't launch it under kde control center => sound).

Except that, just an ennoying thing about font display (not smooth) in some apps and internet. I could solve most of them in kde control center under "Fonts". And like mentionned below, had to reconfigure the locales with about config to "fr-FR" for french for Firefox (bon echo !)

Thanks again for the good job.

Kind regards

Good news :(

Good news from a good man :) , i really feeling so bad that it didn't work out of the box :( i imagined the nvidia cards will work at least with SVGA driver, and because the project does not have the sufficient man power and i don't have the common spread hardware i didn't test nvidia nor ATI cards :( .

as you may all know i didn't include the binary closed source software to get the project hosted on open source hosting like ibiblio.org, sf.net and osuosl.org i think that i'll add an option to get these drivers from the internet and install them in the install time .

the next release will include the new xorg server and its new auto-configuration tools that will solve all the drivers hell as i knew.

there's no problem to name the configuration file XF86Config or xorg.conf any one present will be used by the server, but it's being named like that by the autodetection script /etc/init.d/devices you may remouve it now from the startup.

in every new release of firefox on gentoo the ebuild is having problems with the bon echo name it's really firefox-2.0 but the ebuild reporting it on comilation to be named bon echo.

finally i hope that you'll really enjoy the rest of the system .

Did a test install (about

Did a test install (about five hours for full version), so far the only problem I found was that "Firefox" was not set to the proper locale. I had to use "about:config" to change:

general.useragent.locale user set string ar

to:

general.useragent.locale users et string en

 

To get set for my lang.

 

So, far everything else look to be good ...

 

- Czar

 

Many thanks Good man :),

Many thanks Good man :), what is the specification of your PC ?

Specs

The spec. for the machine I did the install are:

MSI K8N SLI Platinum (MS-7100) (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394) , AMD 64 3200+, 2GB RAM, 7800GT, 500GB WD SATA harddrive.

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